Comments on: PPS Numbers and “Cradle to Grave” Tracking http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/ Civil, Legal and Human Rights in a Digital Age Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:40:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Margaret Brady http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-98114 Margaret Brady Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:41:23 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-98114 I am an Irish Citizen and worked in Ireland from 1983 when I then left and went to New York. How do I get my pps number. Please can you advise me. Many thanks. I am an Irish Citizen and worked in Ireland from 1983 when I then left and went to New York. How do I get my pps number. Please can you advise me.

Many thanks.

]]> By: THOMAS FAHY http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-95621 THOMAS FAHY Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:23:34 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-95621 I EMIGRATED TO THE US IN 1971 I WAS RECENTLY GIVEN SOCIAL SECURITY RETIREMENT DISABILITY IN USA IM 59 I AM APPLYING TO IRISH SOCIAL WELFARE FOR AN INVALIDITY PENSION I WORKED IN IRELAND FOR 7 YEARS NOW I NEED A PPS NUMBER WHERE DO I LOOK AND CAN I GET IT ON LINE SINCERELY TOMMY FAHY I EMIGRATED TO THE US IN 1971
I WAS RECENTLY GIVEN SOCIAL SECURITY
RETIREMENT DISABILITY IN USA
IM 59
I AM APPLYING TO IRISH SOCIAL WELFARE
FOR AN INVALIDITY PENSION
I WORKED IN IRELAND FOR 7 YEARS
NOW I NEED A PPS NUMBER
WHERE DO I LOOK
AND CAN I GET IT ON LINE
SINCERELY
TOMMY FAHY

]]> By: smart card http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-91180 smart card Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:12:48 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-91180 Hey Amadan, "She may not have one though as she hasn’t earned a salary yet or turned 18 and I think that may have been an earlier precondition to receive a pps. " So children can't get one? Hey Amadan,
“She may not have one though as she hasn’t earned a salary yet or turned 18 and I think that may have been an earlier precondition to receive a pps. ”

So children can’t get one?

]]> By: fat boy http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-59417 fat boy Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:01:15 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-59417 Can the revenue get info from the dept of social security regarding any claims for benifit, and would the same dept furnish social security with details of any tax claims if the two periods overlap Can the revenue get info from the dept of social security regarding any claims for benifit, and would the same dept furnish social security with details of any tax claims if the two periods overlap

]]> By: Digital Rights Ireland » Ireland guilty of “systemic failure” to protect privacy - Privacy International http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-48650 Digital Rights Ireland » Ireland guilty of “systemic failure” to protect privacy - Privacy International Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:06:39 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-48650 [...] Their 2007 Report is a comprehensive document based on a survey of 47 countries and consultation with over 200 experts worldwide. Countries are assessed based on their privacy record and laws in relation to areas such as identity cards, biometrics, workplace surveillance and democratic safeguards. Despite having a generally good track record on privacy in many areas, Ireland overall receives the third lowest grade - systemic failure to protect privacy - based largely on Ireland’s excessive data retention laws, the government’s failure to protect privacy at EU level, excessive use of PPS numbers, and the planned introduction of automatic number plate recognition without adequate safeguards. [...] [...] Their 2007 Report is a comprehensive document based on a survey of 47 countries and consultation with over 200 experts worldwide. Countries are assessed based on their privacy record and laws in relation to areas such as identity cards, biometrics, workplace surveillance and democratic safeguards. Despite having a generally good track record on privacy in many areas, Ireland overall receives the third lowest grade – systemic failure to protect privacy – based largely on Ireland’s excessive data retention laws, the government’s failure to protect privacy at EU level, excessive use of PPS numbers, and the planned introduction of automatic number plate recognition without adequate safeguards. [...]

]]> By: barry http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-33265 barry Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:06:35 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-33265 I downloaded and read this paper when it was originally published and I was so appalled I gave a copy to Jim O'Keefe, then the FG spokesman on justice (I am apolitical, but there must be some way of raising the issue) Jim phoned me and said he had raised a number of related matters with McDowall, Social Security, Revenue, etc. He didn't get any coherent answer, just the usual waffle about confidentiality, passwords, audits.... He agreed with me that there is no point of responsibility for data inside the public sector, only the Data Commissioner's office which is an after the fact agency, to all intents and purposes. He also agreed that it appears that data co-ordination, of itself not a bad idea, is left to the IT people, there is no policy. The joke is that even the IT people cannot cope, viz., the nonsense of the driver data having to be re-entered into a database before penalty points could be allocated, there being no common element in the 26 county based files of driving licenses..... Subsequenltly FG didn't win the election....so I suppose nothing will happen. Bye, Barry I downloaded and read this paper when it was originally published and I was so appalled I gave a copy to Jim O’Keefe, then the FG spokesman on justice (I am apolitical, but there must be some way of raising the issue) Jim phoned me and said he had raised a number of related matters with McDowall, Social Security, Revenue, etc. He didn’t get any coherent answer, just the usual waffle about confidentiality, passwords, audits….

He agreed with me that there is no point of responsibility for data inside the public sector, only the Data Commissioner’s office which is an after the fact agency, to all intents and purposes. He also agreed that it appears that data co-ordination, of itself not a bad idea, is left to the IT people, there is no policy.

The joke is that even the IT people cannot cope, viz., the nonsense of the driver data having to be re-entered into a database before penalty points could be allocated, there being no common element in the 26 county based files of driving licenses…..

Subsequenltly FG didn’t win the election….so I suppose nothing will happen.

Bye, Barry

]]> By: Digital Rights Ireland » Welfare Records Leaked to Insurers http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-28719 Digital Rights Ireland » Welfare Records Leaked to Insurers Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:06:10 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-28719 [...] It’s also important to remember the wider problem revealed by those cases. The government has adopted a policy of matching up various databases using the individual’s PPS number as a unique identifier. This applies to areas as disparate as schools, healthcare, taxation and local authorities. This creates new risks of abuse by allowing public officials easily to access information from other public databases, and potentially allowing an individual to be tracked “from cradle to grave”. [...] [...] It’s also important to remember the wider problem revealed by those cases. The government has adopted a policy of matching up various databases using the individual’s PPS number as a unique identifier. This applies to areas as disparate as schools, healthcare, taxation and local authorities. This creates new risks of abuse by allowing public officials easily to access information from other public databases, and potentially allowing an individual to be tracked “from cradle to grave”. [...]

]]> By: babey http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-22703 babey Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:42:53 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-22703 I would like to work in ireland I would like to work in ireland

]]> By: The Amadan http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-18661 The Amadan Wed, 21 Feb 2007 00:38:21 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-18661 Ann, you can call your social affairs or revenue (!) office I think. They at least have them for adults. She may not have one though as she hasn't earned a salary yet or turned 18 and I think that may have been an earlier precondition to receive a pps. anyone else know for sure? Ann,

you can call your social affairs or revenue (!) office I think. They at least have them for adults. She may not have one though as she hasn’t earned a salary yet or turned 18 and I think that may have been an earlier precondition to receive a pps.

anyone else know for sure?

]]> By: ann humpries http://www.digitalrights.ie/2006/04/20/pps-numbers-and-cradle-to-grave-tracking/comment-page-1/#comment-14718 ann humpries Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:34:47 +0000 http://www.digitalrights.ie/?p=33#comment-14718 hi how would i get my daughters pps no she is 8 years old kind regards ann hi how would i get my daughters pps no she is 8 years old
kind regards
ann

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