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	<title>Comments on: IRMA v. Eircom &#8211; Why ISP filtering for the music industry is a bad idea</title>
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		<title>By: techmodelrailroadclub.com &#187; IRMA Wants to Take Away Your Internet Connection.</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-106543</link>
		<dc:creator>techmodelrailroadclub.com &#187; IRMA Wants to Take Away Your Internet Connection.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Sunday Business Post &#8211; Music-swapping sites to be blocked by internet provider Digital Rights Ireland &#8211; IRMA v. Eircom &#8211; Why ISP filtering for the music industry is a ... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: B Monabury</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-98505</link>
		<dc:creator>B Monabury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting - The attached article outlines the fact that even though a user may have &#039;upgraded&#039; the default eircom WEP security - a hacker may have already compromised a system and opened a &#039;backdoor&#039; . Based on that how can eircom &#039;police&#039; the p2p and mp3 - or worseissues .. when it can be legally argued that the broadband connection was breached !

http://www.kerryman.ie/news/your-computer-is-at-the-mercy-of-hackers-1660476.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8211; The attached article outlines the fact that even though a user may have &#8216;upgraded&#8217; the default eircom WEP security &#8211; a hacker may have already compromised a system and opened a &#8216;backdoor&#8217; . Based on that how can eircom &#8216;police&#8217; the p2p and mp3 &#8211; or worseissues .. when it can be legally argued that the broadband connection was breached !</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kerryman.ie/news/your-computer-is-at-the-mercy-of-hackers-1660476.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kerryman.ie/news/your-computer-is-at-the-mercy-of-hackers-1660476.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mickelodian</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-98090</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickelodian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohhh one other point VPN sertvers hide your ISP assigned IP number with their own... and VPN servers NEVER keep logs! 

see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strongvpn.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Strong VPN&lt;/a&gt; but there are also tons of other companies like this one.... 

the downside of course is that you must choose a VPN server which you trust. Remember it is technically possible for the VPN server company to arrest all communication through their server... some of course give you a 1024bit encryption key... only you have the key...so even the VPN server company cannot access your data stream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhh one other point VPN sertvers hide your ISP assigned IP number with their own&#8230; and VPN servers NEVER keep logs! </p>
<p>see <a href="http://www.strongvpn.com/" rel="nofollow">Strong VPN</a> but there are also tons of other companies like this one&#8230;. </p>
<p>the downside of course is that you must choose a VPN server which you trust. Remember it is technically possible for the VPN server company to arrest all communication through their server&#8230; some of course give you a 1024bit encryption key&#8230; only you have the key&#8230;so even the VPN server company cannot access your data stream.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickelodian</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-98087</link>
		<dc:creator>Mickelodian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a silly arguement. Anyone who is NOT downloading copyrighted material illegally will end up complaining... then sueing the ISP (Not IRMA) for intrusion into their privacy... a single court case will have one lucky winner walk with a bag of dosh...after which the ISP&#039;s will tell IRMA to sling their hook!

Anyone who is downloading illegal copyrighted material will simply pay €10 a month (or as low as €2 a month) for a VPN server which encrypt with 1024 bit encryption the data from the VPN throught the ISP&#039;s network to the users machine.

In other words the software emplyed by Eircom to sniff and stop the data will ONLY hurt the innocent and will never threaten the guilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a silly arguement. Anyone who is NOT downloading copyrighted material illegally will end up complaining&#8230; then sueing the ISP (Not IRMA) for intrusion into their privacy&#8230; a single court case will have one lucky winner walk with a bag of dosh&#8230;after which the ISP&#8217;s will tell IRMA to sling their hook!</p>
<p>Anyone who is downloading illegal copyrighted material will simply pay €10 a month (or as low as €2 a month) for a VPN server which encrypt with 1024 bit encryption the data from the VPN throught the ISP&#8217;s network to the users machine.</p>
<p>In other words the software emplyed by Eircom to sniff and stop the data will ONLY hurt the innocent and will never threaten the guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: uli</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-95875</link>
		<dc:creator>uli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Use Steganos Internet Anonym to hide IP</description>
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		<title>By: hhh</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-95868</link>
		<dc:creator>hhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any way around this privacy intrusion???????
eg IP changing software/websites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any way around this privacy intrusion???????<br />
eg IP changing software/websites?</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Rights Ireland &#187; Three unproven accusations and you&#8217;re out - why the Eircom / IRMA deal is bad for internet users</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-95867</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Rights Ireland &#187; Three unproven accusations and you&#8217;re out - why the Eircom / IRMA deal is bad for internet users</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has (at least for the time being) been dropped - and in case you&#8217;ve forgotten, here&#8217;s why it&#8217;s a bad idea. But this new three strikes system has the potential to be just as bad. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has (at least for the time being) been dropped &#8211; and in case you&#8217;ve forgotten, here&#8217;s why it&#8217;s a bad idea. But this new three strikes system has the potential to be just as bad. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Recent Links Tagged With "digitalrights" - JabberTags</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-88002</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 03:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-69294</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p2p is not illegal at all its merely just some forms of content ie movies and music these idiots think they can bully everyone into feeding there greed the thing is the world is moving on without them and they r affraid the thing is the music industry signed its own death warrent when it set the riaa ifpi bpi and the new threat to ireland the irish recording industry this will be laffed out of court there is no legal obligation for an isp to spy on its users even the goverments need a warrant for such tactics why should the music industry have the power to attemp this oh and no harm but tell me i must do something that will cost my buisness money i will tell you to slide on fight them all they way eircom and consider hitting back once you have won!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p2p is not illegal at all its merely just some forms of content ie movies and music these idiots think they can bully everyone into feeding there greed the thing is the world is moving on without them and they r affraid the thing is the music industry signed its own death warrent when it set the riaa ifpi bpi and the new threat to ireland the irish recording industry this will be laffed out of court there is no legal obligation for an isp to spy on its users even the goverments need a warrant for such tactics why should the music industry have the power to attemp this oh and no harm but tell me i must do something that will cost my buisness money i will tell you to slide on fight them all they way eircom and consider hitting back once you have won!</p>
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		<title>By: popper</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalrights.ie/2008/03/11/irma-v-eircom-why-isp-filtering-for-the-music-industry-is-a-bad-idea/comment-page-1/#comment-63420</link>
		<dc:creator>popper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>many thanks, that EU law URl is very interesting.

Be vidulant of Phorm in the irish ISP market, it seems you would have a large enough ISP candidate for them to target that boardroom(s) executive for the hard sell,if they have&#039;nt already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many thanks, that EU law URl is very interesting.</p>
<p>Be vidulant of Phorm in the irish ISP market, it seems you would have a large enough ISP candidate for them to target that boardroom(s) executive for the hard sell,if they have&#8217;nt already.</p>
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